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Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 2 Jun 12 11:05 PM
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Re: Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 3 Jun 12 1:40 PM
One of the obvious reasons why households don't save a lot of money through insulation in NZ is that we don't have a lot of our housing stock on central heating which is largely because our winters are short. The savings do not go directly from a heating system that is maintaining a thermostat at a set temperature.
As my house has been made more insulated I don't burn much less firewood because the fire tends to tick over best at a set rate but the house is warmer and the heat carries through to the morning better which mirrors the findings from the report.
I'm a bit sceptical of the 4:1 payback (largely through health benefits) as these kinds of statistical studies can be skewed around especially by not allowing for a systems feedback capabilities. My personal preference would be to subsidise only elderly and social needs.
I wouldn't agree that people's house buying is not based on logic but that would be a topc of discussion in itself.
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Re: Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 3 Jun 12 2:58 PM
You do save a lots of money if you compare apples with apples. Means maintaining 20 degrees throughout the house (which is NORMAL) in a poorly insulated and single glazed house compared to a modern age draft free, well insulated house with insulated windows. A real passive house built in New Zealand climate means very little or no heating costs and a warm house day and night in Winter and cool in summer.
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Re: Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 3 Jun 12 9:23 PM
We are in what they call climatezone 1 which is according to the "brains" behind it warm enough for SG and other physically unexplainable things. Our "house" 25 years of age is a freezer night by night and many days for at least 8 weeks now and Winter is at least going for another three months. Where is the short Winter? All we need is building standards which reflect NZ conditions. Some people who write building standards need to stop their ignorance, get real and stop dreaming we are Queensland, Samoa or Fiji......
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Re: Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 3 Jun 12 11:15 PM
I got the impression you were in the Taupo area, "I pay rates for cleaning up Lake Taupo", which is climate zone 3, or is that the holiday home?
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Re: Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 3 Jun 12 11:22 PM
I am a long long way north of Taupo but still paying for the cleanup with my rates !!!! If I was in or near Taupe I wouldn't complain about paying rates for the cleanup.
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Re: Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 3 Jun 12 11:49 PM
I can't quite compute that one but the other thing I am reading off the intelligence file we keep on you is that you live in a Keith Hay home which were never much more than cheap starters, especially 25 years ago.
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Re: Energywise Warm Up New Zealand
Posted 4 Jun 12 8:30 AM
Ha,ha it came with the piece the land we bought for another reason. I can't wait to get rid of the thing and replace it with a house. "Cheap starter" what a load of rubbish!!!! I call it an expensive land waste and another low point in the "intelligence file" we keep on the NZ (mainstream !!) building industry and all those who think it is all good and normal what they do....
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